Adveita – ONENESS – Duality or possibly both ?

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Below is a post by Nirmala which he posted on his site http://endless-satsang.com

Its the result of a conversion we had that developed from some improvement suggestions he had after buying our Bioresonance-LaesEr

What a Long Strange Trip It’s Been

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I just had an interesting email conversation with a new friend (Kiran) about the importance of flexibility in our consciousness, and how the idea of “better” can be limiting if it is believed too rigidly. Here is my most recent message to him:

Nirmala : Advaita and also the idea “There is no better or worse”, are pointing to very big truths. It can be very expansive and liberating to see how there is ultimately only one thing here and how there is really no better or worse. This is especially liberating if we have been stuck for a while in a more limited view of separation and in a desperate search for a “better” life.

Kiran : Adveita holds that there is only ONE (Truth, being, consciousness….) and that we already have-it, whereas most people spend a life looking for a “Better life, better technology, better health…” which makes them sick and unhappy. This is an  INDIAN teachings and anyone who has lived 5 years in India as Kiran knows that in India this is not a revolutionary theory but just the expression of Indian life-style with its cast system and thousands of years of unchanging traditions. This teaching as all others that have come from India are so popular in the west because they form the polar opposite to all that we have developed in the west. But is it really a way to live better, more consciously and not get into  the same trouble as the Indian culture with this intellectual monoculture ?

Nirmala : But then you can get stuck in “It is all one” and “There is no better or worse”. True flexibility means being able to see the bigger truths and then to also be able to contract down to a limited identity as a separate somebody, and so to then also be able to practically and functionally work to make things “better”.  The ideal is, as you say, to move freely between these polarities. Then you can work to make things better and also accept when it does not work. Or you can sometimes just rest deeply for a while in the place where it is all perfect.

Kiran : Yes, it is so nice to see Nirmala agree with my most basic life philosophy the DLE, Dynamic Labile Equilibrium – “To be able to move freely between these polarities”. How can an Adveita teacher say this – while in Adveita ONENESS is the only reality ? This contradiction is the basis for all the questions that students ask in satsang. All with a similar form “Yes I agree that there is only ONENESS but then how do I live this practical when I am sick or need the money to feed my kids?”

Nirmala : Most people are more stuck in the limited, smaller viewpoints, which is probably why a lot of spiritual teachers and teachings point to a bigger viewpoint. But ultimately the biggest freedom is when you can move freely between any and all viewpoints, and it does not even really matter what viewpoint you are experiencing right now, because you know deep down that it is just a viewpoint, and it will change again soon anyways.

I also sense that the smaller ideas, viewpoints, identities are all contained in the biggest truths. True transcendence includes everything, and does not leave anything out. Awareness can be like a zoom lens and either focus in on a part of the whole, or zoom out and take in more of the complete whole. But in either case, the smaller part of the bigger reality is still here and still does exist to some degree. Even our thoughts have a kind of existence as neurons firing in our brain, although it is a much smaller and briefer existence than we usually realize (and so thoughts are much less important than we usually think).

Kiran : I love your concept of Zooming-IN and Zooming-OUT and this is actually the foundation of all spirituality that it gives you a believe that allows you to believe that there is a bigger picture, something that goes beyond what you experience in any given moment, either happy or sad. But between us this is not zooming certainly does not work in an Adveita framework as this needs duality.

Nirmala : Most of our “problems” are when we think a small truth is bigger and more important than it really is. When we are zoomed in, our problems (and our thoughts, ideas, worries, beliefs, fears, hopes and wishes) look much bigger than they really are, just like when you are looking in a microscope. Again, this can be useful as a temporary focus of attention, but when we get stuck there, we “lose perspective”. And while it is less common, I do encounter people who are stuck in the zoomed out perspective, which can be liberating at first, but then can also become limiting when it is no longer possible to zoom in and focus when needed.

Kiran : this is not particular to Adveita any priest would tell you this if you come to him for advice – anyone who looses the bigger picture, who has nothing that is more important than the problems at hand will fall in a deep hole. This is the hole that you fall in when at the end of your life you have not developed a vision that is bigger than the life that is ending.

Nirmala : Just for an example, for years I have had a hobby as an audiophile using headphones. It is fun to tweak my system to try and get a “better” sound, although mostly I find that if I change something it just sounds different and not really better. What I think is “better” is always changing anyways. The real trick is to enjoy the journey and not get attached to the results, and for that it is very helpful to take a step back and zoom out. In those moments, I often feel a deep appreciation for every experience and everything I have tried with my headphones. It reminds me of the beauty and mystery of hearing and music and electronics and everything else. And it can free me to “zoom in” and be very curious again as to how making another slight change to my system will sound.

Kiran : Now we are getting practical – our discussion started when Nirmala commented that our system would be more ideal if we would use quarter inch connectors rather than the smaler ones we were using. No Indian mind would ever had this idea and certainly not in the first 7 days that he received a totally new system with plenty of possibilities to play with. But this our western mind – it cannot rest until it has found “the best” or at least “the better”.

Nirmala : One of the great things I encountered in my headphone journey is a couple in England named Peter and May Belt who have a very different approach to the audiophile journey. One day when they were listening to their stereo, Peter (who is an audio engineer and so has a very nice stereo) noticed a stain on the coffee table. So he went out to the garage and got some stain remover he had. The stain remover did not work, but when he sat back down to listen to his stereo, it sounded terrible.

He pondered what could have happened and then he looked at the coffee table. So he picked it up and carried it out in the yard, came back inside and the stereo sounded great again. So then he carried the coffee table back inside and the stereo sounded terrible again.

Then he had a breakthrough idea: if something he rubbed on his coffee table could make his stereo sound worse, maybe there is something he could rub on his coffee table to make things sound better. So he started experimenting and found something that worked, which they call Cream Electret and which they now sell on their website: http://pwbelectronics.co.uk/

They have gone on to try all kinds of weird experiments and basically they have found that everything in our environment affects the perceived sound of a stereo. They have found that even tying knots in the electric cords in your room, or aligning the screw heads in the switch plates on the wall can affect the sound of music that is playing. Their theory to explain this is that everything in our environment affects us energetically and therefore affects our ability to hear. So it is not that a chemical that you rub on the coffee table somehow magically affects the sound coming out of the stereo, but rather that the presence of that chemical in your environment affects you in a way that either increases or decreases your ability to really hear the music coming out of your stereo.

This all points to both the smaller truth of all of the infinite number of  small ways you can affect a stereo (for better or worse depending on how you define those terms) and also the bigger truth that we are all connected and that everything affects everything else. So it is “evidence” for the experience of something potentially being “better” or “worse”, and yet it is also “evidence” for the idea that this is all ONE reality that everything is so deeply connected that these mysterious effects occur whenever we change even the slightest thing in our environment.

As the album title says, “What a long strange trip it’s been”…..and most likely will continue to be!

Kiran : Nobody would question that it is “not only the equipment” that determines your audiophile experience or any other experience. This is why we never sell our healing equipment for self-treatment – as no matter how good our equipment is – this is a serious limitation in the overall plan of existence if we want to “DO-it-ALL-ourselves”, going to a friend or therapist for help is an essential part of the process. Learning that we are not complete, that we need help is just as important as seeing that things are not perfect. Most of all that is why it would not even be preferable if things would be IDEAL as this would stop all change and evolution.

My teaching accepts Duality & Oneness as the deepest realities that we can grasp. This way we can make much more practical use of our lives and don’t have to constantly find more and more clever eloquence to show that ONENESS is the only reality. For example I have seen it combined with perfectionism – Allergies are a manifestation that our body/mind does not accept something as perfect/ ideal/ fitting  for us – even sugar, bread or milk . Living a Dynamic Labile Equilibrium between Oneness and Duality is the best possible use our lives while by excluding one or preferring one over the other as more real or valuable we will never feel complete (if we are not Indian).


2 thoughts on “Adveita – ONENESS – Duality or possibly both ?

  1. Just like with my headphones, if I zoom out I am happy to be experiencing all of these questions and experiences. It has been a very rich exploration so far, and I have especially enjoyed our email conversations. I liked all of your comments on the new blog post. Advaita is a beautiful teaching, but it is just as prone as any belief system of becoming rigid. I joke sometimes about Advaita fundamentalists who as you said, use lots of verbal gymnastics to try and hold onto their viewpoint. Sometimes they can seem to have one answer to every question. When that answer is effective in loosening up someone else’s awareness that is great. And yet when there is always one answer, then it will often instead confuse someone or get someone stuck in a new place.

  2. Re: Peter Belt.
    I wonder if he missed the point – I’m considering that his thinking about the spot on the coffee table instead set up some mis-tunement within himself. He focuses on the spot and cleaning when instead he had unconsciously some form of stress in the play of the moment. His stereo reflects his inner state.

    Electronics are usually very sensitive to our emotional well being. I think this story plays in an interesting way.

    We look to change our furniture position with feng shui rather than investigating how we feel and think about our furniture and home – e.g., what emotions we leave behind in our environs.
    Instead we try to ‘fix’ what appears to be the outer ‘problem’, when it all came from within.
    Interesting article. It helped to see how I often think about things too.
    Thank you and Blessings.


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